I received this morning a request from Mario Pizarro to hear one of my compositions in his Piagui tuning. Since we are having company today I am short on time and decided to render my Sonata 1 in pianoteq using his Piagui tuning which is slightly different from 12 equal. (details of the tuning below)
Piano Sonata 1 rendered in Piagui Tuning
The story behind the piece – this piece has the kitchen sink and more in it because this was the result of for the first time getting my hands on a midi editor that used the grand staff – so I poured some 20 years of ideas out into the composition. It is not always coherent and at times not playable by a two handed person. But nonetheless I kind of like it because of the musical ideas I included like quartal and quintal harmony, clusters, several simultaneous dynamic levels defining polyphonic voices and so on.
Chris
! C:\Cakewalk\scales\12edo.scl
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PIAGUI
12
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2 replies on “Sonata 1 Rendered in Piagui Tuning”
To Chris Vaisvil,
Please tell me if you have easily detected clear sound differences between Sonata 1 in Piagui tuning and Sonata 1 in 12 tet intonation.
As I commented, the six thresholds of -4 cents (Piagui tone cents minus the corresponding tet tone cents) of Piagui tuning might have not produced detectable chord and tone sound discrepances between Sonata 1 in Piagui tuning and Sonata 1 in 12 tet. Should the discrepances are tiny, the Piagui variant intonation, where positive +5.6 cent discrepances replace -4, should be used. The replacements which are limited to about +/- 8 cents work on the suitable tones of the basic Piagui scale, otherwise dissonance and other negative effects appear.
A better step would have been the direct use of Piagui variant scale instead of the original one that works with -4 cents.
I will be waiting for your response.
Mario
March 16
The piece sounds cannot be compared with Sonata 1 in 12 tet, it is not possible to do it here. The work is listened satisfactorily as happened with the recording I received on March 13. Since among the 12 major chords six of them have -4 cents in one of their three tone components, it is certain that the inserted -4 cent differences are the threshold between detectable and not detectable tone frequency difference regarding the same tone in 12 tet tuning. Therefore, some listeners wouldn´t ear much difference between the piece tuned to this option of Piagui tuning and the one tuned to 12 tet. That is why the available variant of Piagui scale where -6 cents work should be used for comparison purposes.
I would like to know if you easily detected sound difference between Sonata 1 tuned to Piagui and 12 tet intonation, if not, the Piagui variant should be the final step.